The Salt Stones: Seasons of a Shepherd’s Life

In this episode of Speaking Out of Place, produced in collaboration with The Creative Process, host David Palumbo-Liu speaks with Helen Whybrow, author of The Salt Stones. They discuss her 25-year journey running Knoll Farm in central Vermont, the deep history of pastoralism, and how observing the complex rhythms of nature can restore our sense of belonging.

From the visceral realities of lambing season to the importance of physical labor and "radical hospitality," Helen Whybrow offers a humbling and inspiring perspective on ecological health and human connection. Tune in to discover how stepping away from our conceptual age and re-engaging with the earth can heal both the land and ourselves.