Fred Sabater Pastor: trail running coach, Spaniard, father

In this special episode, Blake talks with his old friend, summer camp co-leader, and High Sierra backpacking partner, Fred.

Born and raised in Valencia, Spain, Fred brings a European perspective to the question of whether it's possible to become dirtbag rich in a place with different cultural norms and a lower income than the United States.

Fred also discusses how professional trail runners transition away from 20-something dirtbag lives and the (positive) challenge of being spoiled by purposeful work—including deeply meaningful professional relationships—early in life.

Finally, Fred asks Blake about his new book, released today: Dirtbag Rich: High Freedom, Low Income, Deep Purpose. What did it take to write it? How much did it cost to publish? What comes next? And where can people find it?