Dying in Every Moment, Mastering the Unique Art of Stillness, and Illusion, Truth & Love | The Great Victory Ep. 20 (with Natasja Pelgrom) – Podcast #286

<p><em>“</em><em><strong>Stillness. This is the way</strong></em><em>.”</em> - Isra Garcia -- In this intimate episode of <em>The Great Victory</em>, Isra García sits with <a href="https://www.natasjapelgrom.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Natasja Pelgrom</strong></a> in Bali—overlooking rice fields, the ocean, and the mountains—on the last day of their time together.</p><p><em>“</em><em><strong>You don’t have to show love. You are love</strong></em><em>.”</em></p><p>Natasja is a Pioneer in Holistic Transformation, <strong>an internationally respected visionary, advisor, and thought leader at the intersection of sacred leadership, human flourishing, and transformative entrepreneurship</strong>. She embodies key capabilities, and her presence carries three significant qualities: heart, wisdom, and depth. From nervous system to nervous system, breath to breath, she asks Isra three questions that pull the conversation into the rawest territory of his 4-year experimental sabbatical: <strong>illusion, love, truth—death in every moment—and the one practice he believes most people truly need right now.</strong></p><p><em>“</em><em><strong>Die at every moment</strong></em><em>.”</em></p><p><strong>The 3 questions Natasja asks</strong></p><ol><li>What have you learned about <strong>illusion, truth, and love</strong> through The Great Victory?</li><li>Are you willing to speak about <strong>dying many times</strong>—and what that “death” really means on the path?</li><li>From all your experiments and practices: what is the <strong>one healing quality</strong> people need most today?</li></ol><p><em>“</em><em><strong>Nothing to fix. Nothing to prove.</strong></em><em>”</em></p><p><strong>What you’ll take from this episode</strong></p><ul><li><p>Why Isra sees <strong>illusion, love, and truth</strong> as inseparable—and impossible to capture in words</p></li><li><p>What “dying at every moment” actually means (beyond spiritual romanticism)</p></li><li><p>Why stillness is not a technique, but an <strong>art</strong>—and the fastest path to inner freedom</p></li><li><p>How to start practising stillness without making it complicated</p></li><li><p>The line that becomes the episode’s mantra: <strong>“Stillness. This is the way.”</strong></p></li></ul><p>A conversation for those who want less theory, more reality—and a direct return to what’s essential.</p><p><em>“</em><em><strong>Stillness is direct realisation</strong></em><em>.”</em></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Podcast show notes</strong>:</p><ul><li><strong></strong><a href="http://isragarcia.com/the-darkness-retreat-self-mastery-transformation" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>⁠</strong></a><strong></strong><a href="https://isragarcia.com/total-stillness-experiment" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer"><strong>Mastering the Art of Stillness - the Total Stillness experiment</strong></a><strong></strong></li><li><a href="https://isragarcia.com/isra-garcia-about-the-great-victory" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">What is the Great Victory⁠⁠</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYDkHoT5M3A" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Nothing to Solve</a> - Isra Garcia interview for Trust the Journey</li><li><a href="https://www.eudaimonia.institute/the-awaken-podcast" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The Awaken Podcast - by Natasja Pelgrom</a></li><li><a href="http://isragarcia.com/the-darkness-retreat-self-mastery-transformation" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">The Darkness, self-mastery, and inner exploration retreat⁠</a>.</li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://isragarcia.com/projects/holistic-high-performance-training-program" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠Holistic High-Performance program</a></li></ul>