#38 Thea Ullhaug Pope and Thomas Bergoy Johansen explore how Oslo and DMI can scale digital innovation

<p>In this special episode of DMI Doet, we speak with Thea Ullhaug Pope and Thomas Bergoy Johansen from the City of Oslo. Oslo became the first city outside the Netherlands to join the DMI ecosystem, creating new opportunities for international collaboration on digital and sustainable urban development. Together with Jan-Willem Wesselink, they discuss why Oslo decided to become part of DMI, what the city hopes to learn from the Dutch approach, and how cities can work together more effectively across borders. The conversation touches on trust, digital wallets, verifiable credentials, data sharing, digital sovereignty and the challenge of moving beyond pilots towards solutions that can truly scale.</p>