
← Down The Well16 Dec 2025 · 1 h 11 min
When You’re Down the Well: Simple Tools That Work With Jody Moore
Sz 2 Ep 14 | What if emotional overwhelm isn't coming from your life circumstances—but from the sentences running through your mind?
In this intimate, practical conversation, Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Jody Moore to explore the roots of emotional suffering for mothers, especially in life's toughest seasons. Together, they bust the myth that overwhelm, anxiety, and guilt are caused by what’s happening outside of us, and instead reveal how our thoughts—and the judgments stacked on top of them—create our hardest moments.
Jody Moore shares how practicing self-compassion, curiosity, and letting go of perfectionism transformed her experience as a mother, coach, and woman. She explains why striving to be a “good mom” can be counterproductive, and why embracing your “world’s okayest mom” moments might be exactly what you and your kids need.
You'll hear real stories from Elle about navigating complicated grief, her early struggles with self-judgment, and how thought awareness opened the door to healing. Jody dives into practical concepts—from emotional adulthood and curiosity in hard conversations, to the power of raising your “minimum baseline” and owning your choice to stay connected, even when you want to quit.
This episode is a compassionate guide to befriending your emotions, shedding unnecessary suffering, and building stronger relationships—starting with the one you have with yourself.
Timestamps
00:00:00 - Emotions driven by self-compassion.
00:03:00 - Podcast helps mothers in grief.
00:07:00 - Overwhelm comes from our thoughts.
00:12:00 - Handling teen anxiety with validation.
00:16:00 - Bad days versus rough seasons.
00:21:00 - Celebrating "okayest mom" mindset.