
← In Depth21 Apr · 57 min
Inside Artemis' "AI vs AI" war | Shachar Hirshberg & Dan Shiebler (Co-founders, Artemis)
In this episode of In Depth, First Round Partner Josh Kopelman sits down with Shachar Hirshberg and Dan Shiebler, co-founders of Artemis, the AI-native security platform that just emerged from stealth with $70M in combined seed and Series A funding. Shachar and Dan unpack how they built a 30-person team in seven months, why AI-native companies are outperforming their AI-enabled counterparts, and why they plan to stay on a texting basis with every customer, even at scale.
In today's episode, we discuss:
How to interview for AI fluency when building an AI-native startup
Why founder-market fit is a critical early signal for startup success
The surprising lesson Dan learned from founder-led sales
How Dan and Shachar are instilling customer-obsession into Artemis’ culture
How the two co-founders approach conflict and decision-making
References:
Abnormal: https://abnormal.ai
Amazon Web Services (AWS): https://aws.amazon.com
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com
Artemis: https://artemissecurity.com