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Fmr FI Head Man Group: AHL Made a Billion When Everyone Thought the World Was Ending | Rob Carver

Fmr FI Head Man Group: AHL Made a Billion When Everyone Thought the World Was Ending | Rob Carver30 May1 h 21 min

<p>Rob Carver, former Head of Fixed Income at AHL Man Group, independent systematic futures trader, visiting lecturer at Queen Mary University of London, research advisor to Stylus Capital, and author of Systematic Trading, Smart Portfolios and Leveraged Trading, joins Personable to reveal how AHL made a billion dollars in a single day during the 2008 financial crisis without changing a single line of code, why he walked away from managing billions to walk his daughter to school every day, and why almost everyone giving you trading advice online has a financial reason to lie to you.</p><p><br /></p><p>In this episode, Rob opens up about why he trusts his system enough to not check his PNL for an entire month, how human psychology creates the exact conditions that make momentum trading work, and why the best trading decision he ever made was to stop making decisions himself. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is an essential listen for anyone interested in systematic trading, quantitative finance, building robust systems, understanding markets, and what it really takes to compete at the highest level and then walk away from it all.</p><p><br /></p><p>He discusses:</p><p>◽️ How AHL made a billion dollars in a single day during the 2008 crisis by doing absolutely nothing and letting its system run</p><p>◽️ Why almost everyone giving trading advice online has a financial incentive to make you trade more and lose more</p><p>◽️ How human psychology creates the exact market conditions that systematic momentum strategies are designed to exploit</p><p>◽️ Why he walked away from managing billions at Man Group and what success actually meant to him by the end</p><p>◽️ Why the simplest trading system possible still works and what that says about markets and human nature</p><p><br /></p><p>00:00 Introduction and Rob Carver background</p><p>02:30 What it takes to compete at the highest level of quantitative hedge funds</p><p>07:45 High frequency trading versus systematic slow trading and why the two worlds are completely different</p><p>14:20 Market manipulation spoofing and where the line between edge and illegal actually sits</p><p>20:45 How he built a system he trusts enough to not check his PNL for a month</p><p>27:10 The 2008 crisis making a billion dollars in a day and why the system did not care</p><p>34:50 How human psychology creates the conditions that make momentum trading work</p><p>41:30 Why he walked away from Man Group and what his father taught him about success</p><p>47:55 How quantitative finance changes the way you see uncertainty in every area of life</p><p>54:10 Legacy writing teaching and one thing every listener should take away</p><p><br /></p><p>Rob Carver:</p><p>◽️ Website: https://www.systematicmoney.org</p><p>◽️ X (Twitter): https://x.com/investingidiocy</p><p>◽️ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-stuart-carver/</p><p><br /></p><p>Harvey Bracken-Smith:</p><p>◽️ LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/harveybracken-smith</p><p>◽️ Instagram: https://instagram.com/harveybsmith</p><p>◽️ X (Twitter): https://x.com/harveybsmith_</p><p>◽️ Newsletter: https://personable.substack.com/</p><p>◽️ Website: https://www.personable.media/</p><p><br /></p><p>Personable Podcast:</p><p>◽️ Instagram: https://instagram.com/personable.podcast</p><p>◽️ LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/personablepodcast</p><p>◽️ TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@personableclips</p><p>◽️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JOTYDER6m2FDrlhop4api</p><p>◽️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/personable/id1671640111</p><p><br /></p><p>Additional:</p><p>◽️ Fundraising: https://www.loulouracefoundation.org/donate</p><p><br /></p><p>Personable is a podcast dedicated to helping listeners become the best they can be by learning from the world's best in their respective fields. This mission is inspired by my mother, Louise, who encouraged me to become the best version of myself before she passed away from cancer in 2023.</p><p><br /></p><p>This con