Who are the hackers behind the scams that steal your data?

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Jude McCorry (pictured) is chief executive of the Edinburgh-based Cyber and Fraud Centre Scotland.

She talks to us about 'ethical' hacking and the inside story of the cyber attack on car dealership Arnold Clark in 2022.

Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast. This episode is hosted by Laura Miller.

Get in touch: scotcast@bbc.co.uk