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Arthur Hayes: Ethereum Will Outperform The Entire Market (It’s My Biggest Position)
<p>Arthur Hayes joins us for a session to understand the underlying economic forces leading to a massive digital assets bull market in the coming months and years.</p><p>The money printer is about to flip back on and Arthur Hayes says the Euro/Yen exchange rate is the tell everyone's missing. He gets into why Japan's forced unwinding of its massive carry trade, combined with France's brewing bond market crisis, all but guarantees a faster pace of dollar liquidity creation. He also makes the case that AI's unit economics problem becomes the government's next excuse to print more fueling the fiat debasement thesis further. He explains his positioning in the market and reveals why Ethereum is Maelstrom's largest position heading into this cycle.</p><p>Arthur Hayes is the CIO of Maelstrom, the family office of BitMEX co-founder Arthur Hayes, and a prominent macro commentator in digital assets.</p><p>The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>01:57 Fed Chair Warsh Is Irrelevant</p><p>04:03 Japan's GPIF Asset Shift</p><p>09:34 Japan's National Carry Trade</p><p>12:24 Exiting The Restrictive Regime</p><p>14:51 The AI Bailout Trade</p><p>17:59 Gold And Bitcoin Vs Tech</p><p>20:57 Misallocated Capital Flows To Crypto</p><p>23:53 Who Controls The Narrative</p><p>28:52 Crypto Timeline To New Highs</p><p>32:24 Euro/Yen As Leading Indicator</p><p>35:38 France's Bond Market Crisis</p><p>39:11 Positioning The Barbell Portfolio</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Socials:</p><p>Arthur Hayes X: https://x.com/CryptoHayes</p><p>Maelstrom X: https://x.com/Maelstromfund</p><p>Maelstrom Website: https://maelstrom.fund/</p><p><br></p><p>Partners: </p><p>If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you're out of range, you're rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua</p><p>---</p><p>Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/</p><p>---</p><p>Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. </p><p>---</p><p>Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge</p><p>---</p><p>Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.</p><p>Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/</p><p>---</p><p>𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:</p><p><br></p><p>Website: https://therollup.co/</p><p>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...</p><p>Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast</p><p>Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco</p><p>Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages</p><p>Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy</p><p>Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh</p><p>The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures</p><p><br></p><p>𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴