373: What Happens to Survivors After They Reach Safety?

Derek Marsh joins Dr. Sandie Morgan to reflect on what they learned inside refugee communities in Greece — where Sudanese survivors of labor trafficking, and mothers rebuilding after violence, reveal how trust, disclosure, and practical support can change what people are able to name, ask for, and access.

Chapters

(00:00) - Welcome and What Made This Year's Greece Trip Different

(04:51) - Inside the Refugee Camp at Kyllini

(08:11) - Why Survivors Hesitate to Disclose — and the Brutality They Described

(10:21) - Man to Man: Opening Up About Exploitation That Hasn't Stopped

(14:46) - How Greece Identifies Victims While Saving Lives

(17:43) - A Day of Respite: The Single-Mothers Camp

(23:13) - Building Resilience and the Power of a Positive Presence

(29:49) - Taking the Lessons Home: Meeting People Where They Are

About Derek Marsh

Derek Marsh is Associate Director of the Global Center for Women and Justice at Vanguard University, where his work centers on education, prevention, and labor trafficking awareness. A longtime collaborator with Dr. Sandie Morgan and a recurring voice on the Ending Human Trafficking Podcast, he helps lead the Global Center's annual study-abroad program in Greece, returning to refugee-serving communities there many times over the years. He came to anti-trafficking work through law enforcement, founding the Orange County Human Trafficking Task Force, and brings that frontline perspective to questions of victim identification and case development. On this trip, his expertise in labor trafficking — and his ability to connect man-to-man with male survivors who are often reluctant to identify themselves as victims — created space for Sudanese refugees to disclose exploitation they had not previously named.