#439 - Sponsor Spotlight - Tuebora

<p>This Sponsor Spotlight episode, made possible with support from Tuebora, features Jim McDonald in conversation with Sanjay Nadimpalli, CEO and founder of Tuebora. Sanjay shares his path into identity beginning as one of the first engineers at Aveksa, then discusses how intelligence is reshaping identity governance and administration by replacing static configuration with continuous, context-aware decision making. The conversation covers the concept of governance debt, how AI can interpret organizational intent expressed in natural language, and where human oversight remains essential. The discussion also explores governance of agentic identities, including how they differ from traditional service accounts, the challenges posed by their ephemeral and dynamic nature, and the policy-driven frameworks needed to manage them. Sanjay closes with a reflection on what identity practitioners should be thinking about for the next few years.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Sanjay: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjaynadimpalli/</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about Tuebora: https://www.tuebora.com/idac</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Connect with us on LinkedIn:</p><p><br></p><p>Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/</p><p><br></p><p>Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/</p><p><br></p><p>Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>00:00:00 - Introduction and welcome</p><p>00:00:56 - How Sanjay got into identity</p><p>00:02:40 - Full circle moment with Deepak Taneja and Zilla</p><p>00:03:05 - What Tuebora does</p><p>00:04:14 - The story behind the name Tuebora</p><p>00:05:20 - Can intelligence replace configuration</p><p>00:10:05 - Why static configuration falls short today</p><p>00:14:52 - Customer frustrations with legacy environments</p><p>00:21:09 - Comparing this to everyday AI tool use</p><p>00:23:31 - How intelligence drives outcomes</p><p>00:28:42 - Maintaining security control alongside AI</p><p>00:32:38 - The orchestra analogy for AI and human roles</p><p>00:35:28 - Introducing agentic identity governance</p><p>00:36:10 - Why agentic identities differ from service accounts</p><p>00:42:20 - The scale problem of agentic identities</p><p>00:44:00 - Building a framework for agent governance</p><p>00:47:35 - Closing advice for identity practitioners</p><p>00:52:06 - Where to find Tuebora next</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Sanjay Nadimpalli, Tuebora, Sponsor Spotlight, identity governance, IGA, agentic identity, AI agents, governance debt, explainability, IAM, access governance, non-human identity, Aveksa, continuous governance, identity governance and administration</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>