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Dear Rad Ops: Fear vs Risk Assessments, w/ Che Johnson-Long

Dear Rad Ops: Fear vs Risk Assessments, w/ Che Johnson-Long11 nov 202512 min

In this episode, Yashna Maya Padamsee talks with guest Che Johnson-Long, Community Safety Director at Vision Change Win, about how we can be making grounded risk assessments in these times of escalated fear.

We’re in a moment where there is a chance that fear can lead our planning and decision making. It is a particularly escalated and scary time. And this time is calling for us to do clear organizational risk assessments and find, create, or improve upon operational scaffolding to meet the risk assessment, not the fear assessment.

This topic has come up in many conversations throughout 2025, and Dear Rad Ops received a question with some context: I am in an operations role, and my Executive Director wants to implement a new security protocol for our organization. It seems to me like a decision based on fear without a grounded assessment of the real risk to our organization, but I don’t know how to distinguish between fear and risk in this situation.

Question: How can I support my ED to reflect on whether asking for a new security protocol is an individual concern based on fear, or an organizational-level concern grounded in a risk assessment for our particular conditions?

Resources from this episode:

Vision Change Win offers many resources on community safety, including:

Get in Formation Training Series is an intro level training for basic community safety skills around verbal deescalation, event safety and organizational safety.

Organizational Safety Planning Risk Assessment Tool will guide your group through building a risk assessment, the first step in organizational safety planning.

Safety Recommendations from Sept 2025 can help you understand where to prioritize if you’re not sure where to start.

Fascism Barometer podcast by Ejeris Dixon, helps us understand the current political moment which can inform our assessments.

Discussion questions to take to your team:

To get a sense of how to make a fear assessment rather than a risk assessment, you can start by asking yourself and your group these two questions: