Bonus: Ryan Leslie talks about The Between and The Garden of Before (and Wolfe)

Ryan Leslie Interview

Ryan Leslie is a writer whose third book, The Garden of Before, is coming out on September 23, 2025. We discuss his other books The Between and Colossus (which Craig narrated for him -- the audiobook is available on Audible).

Links:

* The Between

* Colossus

* Audiobook of Colossus (narrated by Craig)

* Incubus (Shatner's Esperanto movie)

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