
← Second Press: A Wine-ish Podcast10 aug · 39 min
sp#15 - liz gabay mw & ben bernheim: the pink.wine episode
after a turntable week where dan plays rugby and brad goes to a gig, we're joined on the show by elizabeth gabay mw and her son ben bernheim who together run pink.wine, a platform for events, tastings and masterclasses in their specialist subject of rosé wines, in all shapes and sizes.
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[00:00] – intro, wildfire concerns and introducing elizabeth gabay mw and ben bernheim
[07:20] – the gabay-bernheim double act: family, masterclasses and “brutal, honest” wine tasting
[08:35] – liz’s journey into wine, from a first wine book to provence
[11:05] – how liz went from disliking rosé to writing the first rosé book
[14:20] – how provence changed the way the world thinks about rosé
[15:35] – old provence: rustic wines, old notebooks and what the region used to be
[18:35] – underrated rosé regions: portugal, spain and the diversity of rosé
[23:00] – the danger of reducing rosé to one style
[24:00] – quirky old rosés and the wines that have disappeared
[24:20] – life outside wine: hiking, santiago and walking through vineyards