earn curiosity before you show the data with guest Riley Martin

<p>Join data storyteller Alli Torban as she talks with Riley Martin, founder of Sportsball, about one of the hardest parts of data storytelling: getting people to care before you show the data. </p><p>You'll learn how Riley translates complex topics into approachable visual stories, why he assumes his audience starts with little or no background knowledge, and practical techniques for uncovering what your audience actually wants to know. </p><p>Show notes: <a href="https://www.storytellingwithdata.com/podcast/106" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">⁠https://www.storytellingwithdata.com/podcast/106</a></p><p><strong>RESOURCES MENTIONED:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.storytellingwithdata.com/public-workshops" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Register for our virtual, public workshop on August 20, 2026</a> (use code <strong>PODCAST10</strong> for 10% off our public workshops and on-demand courses)</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rileymartin1/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Riley Martin on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.chameleonvisualcompany.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Sportsball website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/_sportsball/reel/DUim9twiVEK/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Ilia Malinin figure skating infographic</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sakuraofamerica.com/product/pigma-micron/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Sakura Micron pens</a></li><li><a href="https://www.pentel.com/products/pentel-arts-pointliner-pen-assorted-size-5-pk" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Pentel PointLiner pens</a></li><li><a href="https://www.zebrapen.com/collections/clickart" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Zebra ClickArt markers</a></li><li><a href="https://flourish.studio/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Flourish Studio</a></li></ul>