
← Technology Pill13 feb · 53 min
Sand in Trump's Gears: Lessons from America
<p>This week we're talking to Ben Wizner from the American Civil Liberties Union about what the ACLU have been doing in the first year of Trump's second term, what the difference is between this time and last time, and how an earth they can keep up. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li>ACLU report: <a href="https://www.aclu.org/campaigns-initiatives/aclu-vs-trump" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.aclu.org/campaigns-initiatives/aclu-vs-trump</a></li><li>Kyllo case: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyllo_v._United_States</a></li><li>Underground Empire book: <a href="https://henryfarrell.net/underground-empire-2/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://henryfarrell.net/underground-empire-2/</a></li><li>Swift work between PI and ACLU: <a href="https://privacyinternational.org/blog/1355/pi-and-aclu-show-swift-auditor-has-extensive-ties-us-government" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://privacyinternational.org/blog/1355/pi-and-aclu-show-swift-auditor-has-extensive-ties-us-government</a></li><li>Yale lectures on National Security law: <a href="https://epe.yale.edu/videos/above-law-or-beneath-it-how-national-security-law-subverts-accountability-and-weakens-0" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://epe.yale.edu/videos/above-law-or-beneath-it-how-national-security-law-subverts-accountability-and-weakens-0</a></li><li>Asylum for White South Africans: h<a href="" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">ttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/30/us/politics/trump-refugee-admissions-white-south-africans.html</a></li><li>FISA reauth: <a href="https://theintercept.com/2026/01/29/nsa-702-fisa-surveillance/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://theintercept.com/2026/01/29/nsa-702-fisa-surveillance/</a></li></ul>