Raising Mixed Race Kids Who Don't Have to Choose with Dr. Jennifer Noble

Raising mixed race kids means handing them language nobody ever handed you. Lauren was raised on the rule that if you're a little bit Black, you're all Black. It was pride and it was survival. But her three kids are mixed, her twins look nothing alike, and the binary she inherited doesn't stretch to fit them.

She was five or six the first time a kid made her race a punchline. On the school bus, in front of everyone, a boy asked whether she was Black because she'd rubbed poop on her face. She laughed along, went home, closed her bedroom door, and never told a single person. Not her babysitter. Not her mother, who is hearing this story for the first time on this episode.

Her family talked about race constantly. That wasn't the gap. The gap was that it always came as a comparison, one side up and one side down. And her kids are literally both.

Dr. Jennifer Noble is a licensed psychologist and the founder of Free To Be Collective, an organization dedicated to helping interracial couples and non-traditional families raise mixed race children with a secure, confident identity. She works specifically with mixed race teens and their parents, and she knows this territory personally as well as clinically, because she's mixed race herself.

Dr. Jenn tells Lauren what's missing from identifying her kids as solely black and what happens the afternoon a classmate says "but I saw your white dad drop you off."

YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT

• What "monoracial parent" means, and why naming yourself is the first step toward closing the gap

• Why saying "mixed race" out loud matters more than any speech you're planning

• Adding "and mixed" without subtracting an ounce of Black pride

• Phenotype, white presenting kids, and why siblings in the same house move through the world differently

• How early to start, and how to talk to a five-year-old about race without dropping the whole history on them

• How to turn a stranger's double take at the restaurant into your kid's lesson