
← The Amicable Divorce Network Podcast19 apr · 32 min
Been There Got Out with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry
<p>In this powerful episode of the Amicable Divorce Network Podcast, host Tracy Ann Moore-Grant sits down with <strong>Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry</strong>, high conflict divorce strategists and founders of <strong>Been There Got Out</strong>, to discuss their new book <em>When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You</em> — and the very real, very painful issue of <strong>parental alienation</strong>.</p><p>Lisa and Chris work daily with clients they describe as battling their own personal terrorists through the family law system — and in this conversation, they pull back the curtain on what alienation actually looks like, how it starts, and what parents can do to protect their children and themselves.</p><p><br></p><p>💻 Find Lisa & Chris at <strong>beentheregotout.com</strong> | </p><p>📧 <a href="mailto:lisa@beentheregotout.com">lisa@beentheregotout.com</a> | <a href="mailto:chris@beentheregotout.com">chris@beentheregotout.com</a></p><p>📚 <em>When Your Ex Turns the Kids Against You</em> — available on Amazon</p><p>🌐 Find an amicable divorce professional near you at <strong>amicabledivorcenetwork.com</strong></p>