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The Return of Conceptual Data Modeling w/ Sami Hero (CEO of Ellie.ai)
<p>In this episode, I sit down with Sami Hero, CEO of Ellie.ai, to talk through the evolution of data modeling and why foundational conceptual modeling is more critical now than ever. With the explosion of AI agents, LLMs, and semantic layers, many teams assume they can bypass data modeling and just let an AI infer meaning directly from raw tables. </p><p>We dig into why that mindset leads to bad decisions, how companies end up with 15,000 Snowflake tables and thousands of unmaintained dashboards, and why defining core business concepts is the real prerequisite for reliable AI. We also discuss the resurgence of ontologies, lessons from old-school methodologies like MERISE, and how to balance speed with sound architecture. </p>