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Dealing with the Next Bottleneck: Build Management at AI Scale with Helen Altshuler

Dealing with the Next Bottleneck: Build Management at AI Scale with Helen Altshuler6 aug50 min

<p>AI agents are writing code faster than anyone can build, test, and ship it. James Governor talks with Helen Altshuler, CEO and co-founder of EngFlow, about why the bottlenecks that once happened at Google scale are now showing up everywhere. Helen traces the story back to Google's 2008 push for five-minute builds, which produced Blaze and eventually Bazel, and explains why that system is finally having its moment a decade after it was open sourced. The numbers are hard to ignore: EngFlow's customers went from 250 million build actions a week to nearly 2 billion in a single year. Companies like Snowflake, Databricks, and Tinder are using Bazel, managed by EngFlow to keep up. James and Helen also dig into agent-ready documentation, why verification is increasingly automated or even ignored, and what happens once people stop using pull request workflows. We're about to hit a wall of AI created scale, and companies are going to fundamentally rethink architectures and approaches if the want to make it.<br /><br />This RedMonk video is sponsored by EngFlow.<br /><br />Show notes: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://redmonk.com/videos/helen-altshuler/" target="_blank">https://redmonk.com/videos/helen-altshuler/</a><br /><br />Chapters<br />00:04 Introduction and Context Setting<br />01:25 Challenges of Build Management at Scale<br />04:29 Google's Historical Perspective on Build Management<br />07:15 The Impact of AI on Software Development<br />10:19 Bazel's Role in Modern Development<br />13:23 Community Growth and Open Source Collaboration<br />16:36 Enhancing Developer Experience with AI<br />19:22 Customer Insights and Scaling Challenges<br />22:34 Bazel's Unique Advantages and Market Position<br />25:21 Multi-Cloud Strategies and Infrastructure Flexibility<br />29:36 Scaling Software Development with Data<br />33:06 Investing in Developer Infrastructure<br />36:37 Embracing GitHub and CI Challenges<br />42:13 The Evolution of Code Review Practices<br />47:11 The Future of Build Management at Scale</p>