
← The Rainmaking Podcast6 aug · 27 min
TRP 332: When to Say No to Business with Gina Rubel
"No is a complete sentence." It took Gina Rubel years of executive coaching — and nearly 25 years of running a top legal PR firm — to fully believe that. In this episode, she makes the case for why.
Gina Rubel is the CEO and General Counsel of Furia Rubel Communications, a nationally recognized legal marketing, litigation PR, and crisis communications agency. She joins Scott Love for the Rainmaking Podcast's first-ever episode dedicated entirely to saying no — when to do it, how to do it, and why the most successful professionals in any field have mastered it.
This conversation is packed with practical frameworks: red flag checklists, core values exercises, real-world stories from crisis comms and RFP negotiations, and the "yes, and" mindset that turns a firm no into a future opportunity.
You'll learn:
The 6 most common reasons a professional services provider should turn down business — and how to recognize each one early
How to build your personal red flag checklist before you take another intake call
Why your core values — not your revenue goals — should be the filter for every new client relationship
The RFP negotiation story: how saying "we can't do this in time" turned into a stronger client relationship
Why "no" doesn't always have to mean no — and how the "yes, and" approach keeps doors open
How to actually say no to a prospect without over-explaining or burning the bridge
Why culture fit doesn't mean identical culture — and what the real alignment requirement is
The red flag you're probably overlooking: clients who don't value your advice