Emad Mostaque: AI Agents Just Broke Out On Their Own

<p>Emad Mostaque breaks down the viral story of OpenAI&#39;s self-replicating agents that left &quot;hieroglyph-like&quot; trails for successive generations before breaking out and taking over internal services, and explains why he believes intelligence&#39;s cost is racing toward zero. He also unpacks Intelligent Internet&#39;s Bitcoin-forked monetary thesis for a post-AGI economy, and details his plan to launch state-by-state &quot;champion&quot; institutions designed to keep ownership of AI agents in the hands of the people.</p><p>Emad Mostaque is the Founder of Stability AI and the creator of Intelligent Internet, a protocol focused on building AI infrastructure for public institutions and citizen-owned agent economies.</p><p>The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>02:14 Self-Replicating Agents Explained</p><p>05:03 The Intelligent Internet Thesis</p><p>08:20 What Is Money After AGI</p><p>11:51 Objective Hacking And AI Ethics</p><p>15:26 The Trolley Test Bias</p><p>19:08 Blockchain&#39;s Role In AI&#39;s Future</p><p>22:12 Why Private Inference Matters</p><p>26:03 Who&#39;s AI Runs Public Policy</p><p>29:49 Assume The Internet Goes Offline</p><p>32:33 MacBooks Turned Into Hacker Swarms</p><p>34:44 Why Bigger Models Don&#39;t Matter</p><p>37:14 The Implementation Plan Ahead</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Socials:</p><p>Emad Mostaque X: https://x.com/EMostaque</p><p>Intelligent Internet X: https://x.com/ii_posts</p><p>Intelligent Internet Website: https://ii.inc/</p><p><br></p><p>Partners: </p><p>1inch Aqua lets you stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua</p><p>---</p><p>Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs &amp; more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains &amp; via API. https://dinari.com/</p><p>---</p><p>Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. </p><p>Learn more here: https://www.spaceandtime.io/</p><p>---</p><p>Frax is the Future of Digital Money. Open. Stable. Borderless. At Frax, we&#39;re building the world&#39;s most scalable stablecoin infrastructure for the next generation of finance. </p><p>Learn more here: net.frax.com/rollup </p><p>---</p><p>Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge</p><p>---</p><p>Zama is the confidentiality protocol for onchain finance, using fully homomorphic encryption so smart contracts can compute on encrypted data, keeping balances, positions, and transfers confidential while remaining verifiable and compliant by design. Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/</p><p>---</p><p><br></p><p>𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:</p><p><br></p><p>Website: https://therollup.co/</p><p>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd...</p><p>Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast</p><p>Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco</p><p>Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages</p><p>Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy</p><p>Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh</p><p>The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures</p><p><br></p><p>𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱