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Will Clemente: Why The Hard Money Thesis Is Set To Explode Very Soon (Full Thesis)
<p>Will Clemente joins us for an update on the imminent digital asset bull cycle. He breaks down the significance of Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's long-bond buybacks before Jackson Hole, explaining why the move to backstop yields could force excess liquidity into the system and make Bitcoin & other digital assets an increasingly attractive hedge. He also unpacks his financial repression thesis, a potential "Treasury-Fed Accord 2.0," and why he expects Bitcoin and gold's diverging performance to reverse as capital rotates back into hard assets and away from the AI buildout trade.</p><p>Will Clemente is a solo investor and macro analyst known for his research on Bitcoin, onchain data, and the intersection of monetary policy and digital assets.</p><p>The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>02:05 Will Sold Down At The Start Of 2026</p><p>04:08 Everyone In Digital Assets Pivoted To Equities</p><p>06:13 Bitcoin Cycles Bottom When Sellers Run Out</p><p>08:18 Besant Bond Buying Is The Green Light</p><p>10:33 Treasury Twist Explained Simply</p><p>12:44 Stablecoin Issuance Demand Escalating</p><p>14:55 Dollar Debasement Is The Long Game</p><p>17:06 Hard Money Assets Vs Fiat Debt</p><p>19:14 Iran Oil Risk Still Brewing</p><p>21:28 Yen And Dollar Coiling Up Now</p><p>23:51 September 9th Besant Bond Buying</p><p>25:52 Clarity Act Vote September 15th</p><p>28:05 All Roads Lead To Bitcoin Long Term</p><p>30:06 Warsh Forward Guidance Contradiction</p><p>32:17 Small Position on ZCash</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Socials:</p><p>Will Clemente X: https://x.com/WClemente</p><p><br></p><p>Partners: </p><p>If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you're out of range, you're rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua</p><p>---</p><p>Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/</p><p>---</p><p>Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. </p><p>Learn more here: https://www.spaceandtime.io/</p><p>---</p><p>Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge</p><p>---</p><p>Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain.</p><p>Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/</p><p>---</p><p><br></p><p>𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝘂𝘀 𝗯𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗼𝘄 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲𝘀:</p><p><br></p><p>Website: https://therollup.co/</p><p>Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast</p><p>Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco</p><p>Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages</p><p>Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy</p><p>Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh</p><p>The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures</p><p><br></p><p>𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦