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Trezor & Ledger Finally Talk Face to Face

Trezor & Ledger Finally Talk Face to Face13 aug 20251 u 19 min

<p>What happens when the Chief Technology Officers of Trezor and Ledger meet in the same studio?</p><p><br></p><p>In this special Trezor Talks episode, we leave behind social media drama for industry insights. Tomáš Sušánka (Trezor) and Charles Guillemet (Ledger) join Danny Sanders, Trezor&#39;s CCO, for a rare, behind-the-scenes look at the future of crypto security and self-custody.</p><p><br></p><p>You’ll learn:</p><p>• Why devices without screens give a false sense of security</p><p>• How both companies are preparing for quantum computing</p><p>• The Ledger feature that saved $18 million for users in one month</p><p>• Where Trezor and Ledger collaborate to push the industry forward </p><p>• What a day in the life of a CTO looks like</p><p>• The biggest crypto security challenges in 2025</p><p><br></p><p>Two hardware wallet titans discuss one shared mission: keeping your keys safe and supporting self-custody.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>(0:00) – Introduction</p><p>(3:04) – Charles’s journey into crypto security</p><p>(7:46) – Tomáš’s background and experience</p><p>(11:34) – Trading compliments (becoming frens)</p><p>(14:31) – Education &amp; the self-custody mission</p><p>(19:12) – Balancing security, privacy, and usability</p><p>(26:30) – Industry security challenges today</p><p>(29:31) – Ledger&#39;s security philosophy</p><p>(36:25) – Trezor’s open-source approach</p><p>(37:47) – Why device screens matter for safety</p><p>(41:04) – Clear signing initiative and collaboration</p><p>(47:11) – Smart contracts and user freedom</p><p>(53:50) – A day in the life of a CTO</p><p>(59:35) – Future tech &amp; industry trends (quantum computing)</p><p>(1:09:36) – Challenges for Bitcoin &amp; post-quantum cryptography</p><p>(1:12:17) – Bitcoin, stablecoins &amp; traditional finance</p><p>(1:18:22) – Conclusion and traditional awkward handshake (outro)</p><p><br></p><p>Secure your crypto with Trezor: https://trezor.io/</p>