As You Wish Talk Radio, September 5, 2026

As You Wish Talk Radio with James Gilliland

Psionics, UFO Contact, and the ECETI Ranch Phenomena with Peter Maxwell Slattery and Troy Gavin

James Gilliland is joined by Peter Maxwell Slattery of Jaya Sanctuary and Troy Gavin of WhiteHawk Psionics to talk about field research into UFO and orb activity in Australia and at Gilliland's Mount Adams ranch, blending scientific instrumentation with a heart-centered approach to contact.

Two Guests Join From Down Under

James Gilliland opens the broadcast from ECETI Stargate, urging listeners to share the show because, he says, platforms are shadow banning it even as outside creators pull huge numbers with the same clips. He welcomes two guests from Australia, Peter Maxwell Slattery of Jaya Sanctuary and Troy Gavin, a former member of the Australian Defence Force who now leads WhiteHawk Psionics. Troy explains that the year-old company studies the relationship between human consciousness and UAP activity, combining trained psionic practice with field observation at Slattery's sanctuary using thermal and low-light cameras, flight and satellite tracking, and environmental monitoring. Rather than asking audiences to simply believe, he says the goal is to let people experience the phenomena directly so it can be documented and evaluated. Gilliland responds enthusiastically, noting his own decades of trying to marry higher-dimensional activity with hard instrumentation, including infrared and ultraviolet imaging that can reveal what he calls fifth-dimensional craft.

Instruments Bring Science To The Phenomena

Peter Maxwell Slattery describes technology used at Jaya Sanctuary, including work with Matt Shields on PIP equipment that registered color changes in real time as different beings and energies appeared, and Dr. Jim Segala's MUPAS device, which the pair say simultaneously tracks roughly sixteen readings similar to Geiger counters, K2 meters, and trifield meters. He says microwave radiation readings jump from a baseline of about four to over twenty when beings or lights appear in a home. Gilliland adds that his own trifield meter reacts the moment he approaches it, though he admits he does not fully understand the mechanism. Slattery frames the equipment as confirmation of what experiencers already sense, tying instrumentation to consciousness research that Troy Gavin has pursued. Troy says WhiteHawk is fielding growing interest across Australia from people asking how to refine their own observation protocols, and