141: Average Size Zach with Zach Moss

Ryan Gray is back for week two with Zach Moss of Yavapai College, this time leaving project management mostly behind for the questions that really matter. Zach establishes his place in the Yavapai College hierarchy of multiple Zachs, explains why he considers himself an extrovert, looks back at his first job washing dishes in an Italian restaurant, and shares why he tries not to let fear make decisions for him, even when that philosophy has led to some objectively questionable choices.T

he conversation continues through alternate careers in chemical engineering, total commitment to the Apple ecosystem, listening to the same music over and over, and the unexpectedly serious accomplishment of building a remarkably flat bench. Then Ryan and Zach develop the concept for Zach, an action movie in which a different actor plays Zach in every scene without explanation, before getting into what it means when someone genuinely asks how you are doing and discovering that even a man who refuses to let fear make his decisions occasionally knows when to let common sense kick in.

Topics Discussed

The Yavapai College hierarchy of Zachs

Being an extrovert and drawing energy from other people

Lessons from a first job in an Italian restaurant

Refusing to let fear make decisions

Moving from Virginia to Prescott without a job

An alternate career in chemistry or chemical engineering

Apple loyalty and listening to the same music over and over

Building a six foot, extremely flat bench

Casting the action movie of Zach Moss’s life