The 4-Step Agentic Engineering Workflow I Use to Ship Real Apps | Ras Mic

<p>Micky is a full-stack engineer who has taught 100K+ people how to build with AI. In our episode, he walked me through his 4-step agentic engineering workflow to avoid pumping out slop: Isolate every task, build to a clear structure, prove via validation loops, and ship after agents review your PRs or escalate to you for a manual look.</p><p><br></p><p>Micky and I talked about:</p><p><br></p><p>(00:00) Why most software factories pump out slop</p><p>(02:06) Step 1 (Isolate): How to run multiple agents at once</p><p>(07:18) Step 2 (Build): Give agents a structure to build on</p><p>(10:44) Step 3 (Prove): Build agentic validation loops</p><p>(16:48) The one step Micky never hands to agents</p><p>(21:30) Step 4 (Ship): Getting agents to review PRs reliably</p><p>(28:20) Why Micky doesn't write specs</p><p>(33:08) Comparing Astra and Fable for coding</p><p>(43:08) Are AI skills obsolete with today's models?</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks to our sponsors:</p><p><br></p><p>Wispr Flow: 4x faster than typing with your voice <a href="https://ref.wisprflow.ai/peteryang">https://ref.wisprflow.ai/peteryang</a></p><p>Riverside: All-in-one AI studio for podcasts and video <a href="https://creators.riverside.com/PeterYang">https://creators.riverside.com/PeterYang</a></p><p><br></p><p>📌 Get the takeaways: <a href="https://creatoreconomy.so/p/agentic-engineering-workflow-ras-mic">https://creatoreconomy.so/p/agentic-engineering-workflow-ras-mic</a></p><p><br></p><p>Where to find Micky:</p><p><br></p><p>X: <a href="https://x.com/Rasmic">https://x.com/Rasmic</a></p><p>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RasMic">https://www.youtube.com/@RasMic</a></p><p>Skills: <a href="https://github.com/michaelshimeles/skills">https://github.com/michaelshimeles/skills</a></p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to this channel - more interviews coming soon!</p>