090 | 绝望写手还是绝美忘年恋我自有判断 Hacks: When Your Work Wife Takes Over Your Life

【聊了什么The What】

这一期小蓝和一芳请来友台「大波福娃」的酸酸和小苕，一起聊 HBO Max 黑色喜剧《绝望写手 Hacks》：一部从 2021 年播到今年 6 月大结局、拿下 14 座艾美奖的剧集。故事讲的是拉斯维加斯驻场的过气传奇喜剧女演员 Deborah Vance，和一个被行业封杀的 25 岁新人写手 Ava Daniels，如何从针锋相对到成为彼此的创作搭档、伴侣和挚友。我们四个女的从追剧节奏聊起，一路谈到脱口秀创作的真实体验、女性做喜剧要付出的代价、Deborah 与 Ava 之间说不清的关系（老板员工？母女？浪漫爱？），最后落到全剧真正想问的问题：一个创作者要如何被这个世界记住。

This episode Izzy and Yifang brought on Suan and Shao from our sister show DatBeauvoir to talk about the HBO Max dark comedy Hacks, which ran from 2021 to its finale this past June and picked up 14 Emmys along the way. The show follows Deborah Vance, a washed-up legendary comedian doing a residency in Las Vegas, and Ava Daniels, a 25-year-old writer who's been blacklisted by the industry, and how they go from sworn enemies to creative partners, life partners, and each other's closest confidantes. The four of us talk about everything from our binge-watching habits to what it's really like to write stand-up (Suan and Shao both have brilliant sets,) what women in comedy have to sacrifice, and the relationship between Deborah and Ava that defies easy labels (boss and employee? mother and daughter? something closer to romance?) and finally landing on the question the whole show is really asking: how does a creator get remembered by the world?

【本期嘉宾 Our guests:】

小苕 (it/its)：一个擅长端盘子的骄傲土豆

酸酸(she/her)：一包先酸后甜的绿色彩虹糖

Shao (it/its): A potato with Chinese characteristics. Can’t be fried or smashed.

Suan (she/her): A bag of zesty green Skittles with the sweetest aftertaste.

【时间轴 The When】

00:58 《Hacks》剧集背景：HBO Max 黑色喜剧

02:47 我们是怎么看剧的——从两周到"五天速通"

04:00 五季剧情回顾：从相识、写专场，到深夜秀风波、诉讼边缘、最终和解