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Sustainability & Corona: treat a crisis like a crisis! with Henner Busch

Sustainability & Corona: treat a crisis like a crisis! with Henner Busch19. Juni 202053 Min.

Jeremy and Sanne talk with research Henner Busch about the similarities and mutual impacts of the coronacrisis and climate crisis, and the possibilities for a just transition out of both.

Some consider the corona crisis a more urgency-driven and fast-track version of the climate crisis: both their impacts are deeply unevenly felt, hitting those most vulnerable hardest and first, and a true solution to both requires unprecedented, fundamental systemic change. The corona crisis proves that rapid change is possible, though, Henner continues, looking at crises from the past, the important question to ask is whose interests do these changes truly serve, and what new lock-ins are created.

☞ Links & further reading from the show:

From the Introduction:

❯ Waarom klimaatverandering een pandemie in slow motion is en wat we daarvan kunnen leren

☞ From Jeremy's reflections on the lessons from the current situation:

❯ Rebellions get results, a list so far

❯ Climate change and overpopulation

❯ Why climate change Malthusians are wrong on population

❯ The population myth by Murray Bookchin

❯ Are there too many people on the planet?

☞ From the views of Henner Busch: