Koray Kavukcuoglu on frontier models, coding agents, and building AGI

Google DeepMind SVP and Chief AI Architect Koray Kavukcuoglu joins host Logan Kilpatrick to reflect on the journey from DeepMind's early reinforcement learning milestones to Gemini and what it means to build AGI at Google.

Watch along and learn:

* What made Gemini 3.7 Flash a breakthrough for engineers

* The ambitions of the Gemini 4 pre-training run

* What it takes to stay at the frontier of AI research

* How co-building AGI with users shapes everything the Google DeepMind team does

00:00 Intro

00:24 From models to coding agents

03:07 Gemini 4 pre-training

04:08 Why the frontier is all that matters

06:38 Leading frontier AI at Google

08:53 Why there's no test for AGI