Calling Ourselves Back Home: The Spiritual and Energetic Lens of IFS, with Kay Gardner

In this episode, I sit down with Kay Gardner, one of the original “mothers” of Internal Family Systems (IFS), to discuss her new book, Calling Ourselves Back Home: The Spiritual and Energetic Lens of IFS.

Kay shares her journey with IFS and what it has been like to finally take the “lid” off the spiritual and intuitive aspects of her work. We explore legacy and cultural burdens, the historical oppression of the divine feminine, and how these burdens can impact our ability to trust and express our intuition.

We also talk about the power of imagination, reconnecting with our innate intuitive nature, and what it means to remember the spirituality that has always been within us.

Kay and I dive into guides—what they are, how we might notice them, and how they can support our journey. And in a fun and unexpected moment, we discover that Kay and I share a guide!

In This Episode:

Kay’s origin story with IFS

Legacy and cultural burdens

The divine feminine, intuition, and imagination

Reclaiming our intuitive and spiritual nature

The cultural fear of speaking our intuitive knowing aloud

Connecting with guides and noticing their presence

Kay’s new book, Calling Ourselves Back Home