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Cosmic Clash: Steven Forrest Controversy and a Solar Eclipse
<p><a href="patreon.com/theawakespace" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Join the Awake Space </a>to explore how to use astrology in practical and liberating ways!</p><p>This week on <strong>The Awake Space Astrology Podcast</strong>, Laurie tackles the Steven Forrest controversy and addresses the idea that Western Tropical Astrology is exclusionary or a rip off of Vedic. (Find source material links below)</p><p>Laurie traces the fascinating development of astrology from ancient Mesopotamia through Greece, India, the Islamic world, medieval Europe, and into modern practice. She explains why Western Tropical and Vedic/Jyotish astrology are distinct traditions, how scholars exchanged knowledge across cultures, and why astrology has always evolved alongside our understanding of humanity.</p><p>She also shares why she developed <strong>Progressive Evolutionary Astrology</strong>, an approach centered on the complexity of human experience rather than rigid binaries, limiting labels, or outdated interpretations.</p><p>Plus, <strong>Awake Space Magazine Subscriber</strong> questions, this week’s <strong>Ralph Report</strong>, and a look at the <strong>August 12 Leo New Moon and solar eclipse</strong>.</p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p><strong>00:00 — Welcome & What’s Ahead</strong><br><strong>03:49 — The Steven Forrest Controversy</strong><br><strong>13:15 — Moving Astrology Forward</strong><br><strong>29:21 — The Real History of Western & Vedic Astrology</strong><br><strong>47:02 — Mundane Astrology & the U.S. Chart</strong><br><strong>51:10 — Your Astrology Questions Answered</strong><br><strong>01:05:00 — The Ralph Report</strong><br><strong>01:11:01 — August 12 Solar Eclipse & Leo New Moon</strong></p><p>Astrology has never existed in a vacuum. It has grown through observation, mathematics, cultural exchange, scholarship, and generations of astrologers asking better questions. This episode explores that history while looking toward what astrology can become next.</p><p>Show Links:</p><p><a href="https://theawakespacepodcast.com/posts/july-archive-165590030?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=web_share" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">July Archivist Report on Laurie's Predictions</a></p><p>Citations: Please note that some information is debated by scholars. </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/horoscope" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Encyclopaedia Iranica — Horoscope, David Pingree</a></li><li><a href="https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/astrology-and-astronomy-in-iran" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Encyclopaedia Iranica — Astrology and Astronomy in Iran, David Pingree & Christopher J. Brunner</a></li><li><a href="https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/zodiac" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Encyclopaedia Iranica — Zodiac</a></li><li><a href="https://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/planets/?utm_source=chatgpt.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Encyclopaedia Iranica — Planets</a></li><li><a href="https://hssa-journal.org/index.php/hssa/article/view/7" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Bill M. Mak — The Date and Nature of Sphujidhvaja’s Yavanajātaka Reconsidered</a></li><li><a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-history-of-science/translation-and-transmission-of-greek-and-islamic-science-to-latin-christendom/80DAC63DA8ED033148F327E7E37532F1" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Cambridge History of Science — Translation and Transmission of Greek and Islamic Science to Latin Christendom</a></li></ul><ul><li>Please note he was an astrologer (astronomers and astrologers were not separate occupations until the 18th century) <a href="https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Al-Biruni/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Al-Biruni/ </a></li><li><a