
← The CIRS Group Podcast7. Okt. · 33 Min.
Can't tolerate CIRS treatment? How to navigate intensification, stalls, and flares
Barbara and Jacie discuss what to do when the Shoemaker protocol/CIRS treatment feels intolerable. They stress testing the home (ERMI or HERTSMI-2 dust testing at minimum, ideally including actinos and endotoxins) and choosing to leave, remediate, or use temporary “Band-Aids” like a safe room with an Air Oasis, frequent cleaning, or even sleeping outside in a low-VOC tent. They cover cautious binder use (especially if still in exposure), avoiding risky “crazy supports” like Neuro Plasmalogens too early, and using stabilizing supportive strategies such as morning sunlight, sleep, omega-3s, and ensuring daily bowel movements. They compare binders from gentlest to strongest (chitosan, MycoBind, Welchol, compounded CSM) and suggest re-checking other exposures (Lyme/tick-borne, spike protein, dental issues, implants) if binders aren’t tolerated. For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro and disclaimer00:39 When the protocol feels impossible02:30 How to deal with exposure 04:10 Leave or remediate?06:00 Create a safe room 07:40 Camping: living in tents09:29 Low dose Binders while in exposure12:06 Avoid risky supplements15:31 More tolerable supports and strategies: sun, sleep, mindset17:39 Prep for binders: Omega 3s and regular bowel movements22:27 Binder options ranked25:38 If you really can't tolerate the binders at all29:46 Detoxing with self care
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
Our episode on dust testing: https://youtu.be/ugKumIiWyGY?si=T80EPSsPO9GG9ziqOur episode on renting with CIRS: https://youtu.be/ZCjCbxKeYQ0?si=5MYBmS-BfejLXiIIOur episodes on remediation: Bill Weber: https://youtu.be/RlKjTqVAeNU?si=lQyBtsgDQIXAaY5cMichael Schrantz: https://youtu.be/_BEwFVdpRcY?si=c-6A3TaoI8G0Xcc_Max McCord: https://youtu.be/FqixkBGj4Bo?si=ghBshOOv0mNdsg5ZLow VOC Tent: https://www.mychemicalfreehouse.net/2021/01/camping-with-mcs.htmlOur plasmalogens episode: https://youtu.be/wnTYoYYP15k?si=3itC8krsopRfsKbIour episode about tick borne illness with Dr. Milani: https://youtu.be/kaao2kwt1mA?si=pLFj_UGQHNGTvnt5Our Chris Williamson episode: https://youtu.be/5uTs5B6ySHQ?si=xVkyCZfHcq772_uo
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