Episode 27: God Is Not in Love with a Better Future Version of You (w/ Matthew McClure and Mike Klunke)

Ministry has a way of exposing what success can hide. In this conversation, Matthew McClure and Mike Klunke, co-directors of Soul Care for the Collegiate Church Network, talk about what they've learned from decades in collegiate ministry about the life beneath the leadership. Mike reflects on handing off Cornerstone Church at Illinois State after 25 years, and what stepping away revealed about over-responsibility, identity, and the quiet inner command to just keep going. Matthew traces his ow...