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How Re Brings Reinsurance, One of Finance's Most Exclusive Yield Sources, To DeFi | DeFi Frontier

How Re Brings Reinsurance, One of Finance's Most Exclusive Yield Sources, To DeFi | DeFi Frontier14. Aug.1 Std. 00 Min.

<p>Karn Saroya is the CoFounder and CEO of Re.</p><p>T-bills got tokenized. Private credit's getting tokenized. Now it's reinsurance's turn.</p><p>In this new DeFi Frontier episode, Karn walks through how Re brings reinsurance, the financial backstop behind every insurance company, onchain for the first time. He explains what reinsurance actually is, why the yield is real, how Re's programmable capital architecture gives them dramatically higher operating leverage, and what metrics actually matter for assessing whether the business is working.</p><p>------<br />💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS</p><p>🔒 <a href="https://kpk.io/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> KPK</a> | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults<br /></p><p>🏦 <a href="https://app.axis.to/origin/EDGE" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> AXIS</a> | The Origin Vault launched on Ethereum<br /></p><p>🟠 <a href="https://apyx.fi/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> APYX</a> | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)<br /></p><p>🐡<a href="https://institutional.puffer.fi/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"> PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL</a> | ETH staking solutions for scale<br /></p><p>------<br />⏱️ TIMESTAMPS</p><p>0:00 - Intro<br />1:38 - Building insurance tech before Re<br />6:36 - What is reinsurance and why it matters?<br />9:16 - How big is the reinsurance market?<br />10:05 - How Re brings reinsurance capital onchain<br />14:46 - The DeFi mullet and capital efficiency unlocked<br />18:46 - Growing revenue with just 12 employees<br />22:45 - Re’s strategy for winning new business<br />28:21 - The capital stack behind Re<br />30:57 - Duration mismatch and how Re navigates this risk<br />35:07 - Re junior tranche and what’s it earning<br />36:40 - How Re differs from competitors<br />43:17 - AI and its potential impact on Re’s future underwriting<br />46:47 - Re’s role in the growing market of RWAs<br />48:50 - Agentic operations within Re<br />52:28 - Tracking the most important growth metrics at Re<br />55:13 - What’s needed for hundreds of billions to come onchain?<br />56:45 - Overview of the RE token<br />58:44 - Closing</p><p>------<br />🔗 GUEST LINKS</p><p>► Re website: https://re.xyz/<br />► Re on X: https://x.com/re<br />► Karn Saroya on X: https://x.com/karnsaroya</p><p>------<br />🎙️ MORE FROM THE EDGE PODCAST AND EDGE NEWSLETTER</p><p>► Newsletter: https://the-edge.xyz<br />► Apple: https://tinyurl.com/edgepod<br />► Spotify: https:/