
← The Founder's Foyer with Aishwarya Ashok21. Sept. 2025 · 50 Min.
#59 We’re Not Vibe Coding: We’re Building Real AI Products ft. Nicholas Charriere, Founder & CEO of Mocha
<p>In this episode of The Founder’s Foyer with Aishwarya Ashok, join Nicholas Charriere, Founder & CEO of Mocha, and discover how Mocha is democratising product creation enabling anyone, regardless of coding experience, to build functional apps.</p><p>Nicholas shares Mocha’s mission to empower the 99%, the transformative role of AI in app development, their unique vertically integrated approach, and the future of product building.</p><p>You’ll also learn about Mocha’s viral launch, innovative marketing strategies, and insights into the evolving economics of AI tools.</p><p>Timestamps: </p><p><br></p><p> 00:00 – Intro<br> 00:55 – Welcome to Founder’s Foyer<br> 01:10 – Why Mocha Was Started and How It’s Useful for People<br> 07:33 – How to Build a Product for an Audience Who Doesn’t Know How to Explain Things<br> 12:05 – A Customer Who Built a Business with Mocha<br> 18:50 – Why “Easy” Features Like Payments Are Harder Than They Look<br> 27:56 – AI Unlocks New Ways to Help Small Businesses<br> 31:20 – AI Pricing Is Broken, And It’s On Purpose</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>