The Climate Crisis: An Interchat with Ben Plowden

What has to change inside government before anything changes on the street?

In today's Interchat with Ben Plowden, Chief Executive of Campaign for Better Transport, we discuss the machinery of government, why combined authorities should never be treated as a single category and the local transport authorities now spending 70% of their budgets on social care.

We also discuss my own despair about the climate crisis - and Ben's rather more useful answer to it.

Interchats are a series of short conversations recorded on the conference floor at Interchange 26 in Manchester.