Heated Rivalry Part 2: Desire & Vulnerability with Laura Jurgens

Heated Rivalry is is one of my favorite love stories ever told & I cannot get enough of reviewing, analyzing & talking about it. I am so excited to share Part 2 of my conversation with the amazing Laura Jurgens!

SPOILER ALERT! This is not a spoiler-free zone.

We go deep on specific scenes & episodes, so if you haven't watched it yet & you care about spoilers, save this for another day.

And if you haven't heard Part 1 yet, go back & start there as we set up so much context about why this show matters so much to me and what themes we think can help you see your own relationship differently.

In Part 2, Laura Jurgens, PhD & I pick the conversation right back up.

This time we go into the cultural phenomenon of Heated Rivalry and what it reveals about women's desire & why vulnerability is the real game-changer in relationships.

We also get into the episode-by-episode moments that stopped us in our tracks, & the creative lessons from writer-producer Jacob Tierney about trusting your vision.

A quick note on where we're each coming from: I'm a cisgender heterosexual woman, & Laura is a bisexual woman bringing her own lived experience to this.

We're both speaking from our specific lenses, & that feels especially worth naming here in Part 2, where we talk about desire & women's sexuality.

As a person who loves love both in real life & on TV, I have LOTS OF THOUGHTS — & I'm so grateful for the deep joy this celebration of queer love has brought to my life.

A second quick note: we talk about sex & sexual situations, so if you're listening somewhere with people who shouldn't be hearing this, save it for later.

Here is the scoop on what we talked about —