
← The PolicyViz Podcast7. Okt. · 31 Min.
Mike "SullyDawg" Sullivan: Explaining Trillion-Dollar Budgets with Solo Cups
In this week's episode of the show, I talk with Mike "SullyDawg" Sullivan, the viral creator behind the cup pyramid videos that turn massive federal budget numbers into something you can actually see. Mike spent decades as a teacher and coach before a bike ride inspired his first video stacking Solo cups to explain government spending — and it took off almost overnight. We dig into why three-dimensional scale succeeds where bar charts and line graphs fail, how he sources and cross-checks the data behind every video, and the four-part formula he swears by: topic, data, energy, and visual. Mike also opens up about the physical work of stacking thousands of cups in his garage, the unpredictable swings of the social media algorithms, and what's next for his growing platform. It's a fun, thoughtful conversation about making enormous numbers finally make sense.
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