Ep. 25 Education and the 'rebirth' of Learning (the unintentional Xmas episode)

In this conversation, Greg Arthur and Nick Shackleton Jones explore the critical distinctions between education and learning, emphasizing the need for experience design in learning environments. They discuss the influence of social media on learning and development, the challenges posed by traditional learning models, and the importance of context in creating effective learning experiences. The conversation highlights the disconnect between theory and practice in learning, the rituals that often hinder progress, and the necessity for organizations to embrace real learning experiences over superficial metrics. In this conversation, Greg Arthur and Nick explore the evolving landscape of Learning and Development (L&D), discussing the moral dilemmas faced by professionals in the field, the impact of AI on education, and the importance of performance support and experience design. They delve into the challenges of leadership, the disillusionment many feel within the industry, and the need for a shift towards more meaningful learning experiences. The discussion highlights the reactive nature of the industry, the role of compliance, and the future of learning management systems, ultimately emphasizing the necessity of swimming against the tide to create impactful learning environments.

Titles

Rethinking Education and Learning

The Influence of Social Media on Learning

Sound bites

"Why don't people change?"

"It's a moral dilemma in L&D."

"Do I want to step out of line?"

Chapters

00:00 Education vs. Learning: A Fundamental Distinction

05:47 Conformity and Resistance to Change in Learning

11:19 Experience Design: Lessons from Other Industries