The Resonate Podcast with Michelle Expert

← The Resonate Podcast with Michelle Expert22. Juni · 58 Min.

Marketing vs. Sales: Why Your Business Will Fail Without Both of Them

Marketing vs. Sales: Why Your Business Will Fail Without Both of Them22. Juni58 Min.

<p>🎙️ What does it take to transform a legacy giant into a digital growth engine for thousands of SMEs?In this compelling episode of The Resonate Podcast, Michelle Expert is joined by Andrew Dawson — Management Executive for SME and Diversified Business Sales at Telkom — for a masterclass on sales strategy, the &quot;pivot&quot; mindset, and why connectivity is the ultimate growth partner for the South African economy.Andrew has spent over 16 years helping Telkom transition from its &quot;ticky box&quot; legacy into a data-led powerhouse managing 180,000 km of fiber. With a background that started in graphic design and interactive agencies, Andrew brings a unique creative lens to the high-stakes world of B2B sales, proving that the best leaders aren&#39;t just technical they are supportive, inquisitive, and approachable.From the streets of Mitchell&#39;s Plain to the boardroom of a 13,000-employee organization, Andrew shares the grit required to move beyond &quot;monolithic&quot; business structures toward a culture of agility and innovation. This is a deep dive into building sustainable businesses and the power of human connection in a digital-first world.💡 In this episode, we discuss: ✅ The Heart of Business: Why Andrew chooses Sales over Marketing every single time for survival. ✅ Flogging a Dead Horse: How to recognize the &quot;hero complex&quot; and when it is time to pivot your business strategy. ✅ The &quot;Unfair Advantage&quot; of Connectivity: How a simple Wi-Fi router can transform a salon or guest house into a high-revenue environment. ✅ Leading with Forgiveness: Why creating a safe space for mistakes is the only way to drive true innovation. ✅ AI vs. Human Logic: Navigating the fear of technology and why &quot;people still buy from people&quot;. ✅ The Future Maker Hub: How Telkom is mentoring 2,600 SMEs to become the &quot;growth engine&quot; of the country. ✅ Removing Digital Friction: Streamlining customer journeys without losing the essential human touch.✨ We also unpack: • The Ticky Box to Fiber Story: Reflecting on the evolution of prepaid calling cards to the backbone of the SA economy. • Innovation from the Front Lines: Why your best ideas often come from drivers and call center agents, not the &quot;Ivory Tower&quot;. • The Data Guardrail Warning: Why using public LLMs (like ChatGPT) might be leaking your private business secrets. • Partnership over Silos: Why you can&#39;t be everything to everyone and the necessity of finding reputable tech partners. • A Radical Economic Truth: &quot;If Telkom sneezes, the country catches a cold&quot; — why connectivity powers everything from ATMs to retail &quot;tap to pay&quot;.💬 If you are: • an aspiring entrepreneur looking for the &quot;backbone&quot; to support your hustle, • a leader trying to dismantle silos and build an agile, collaborative company culture, • navigating a digital transition and feeling intimidated by the rise of AI, • or ready to stop &quot;flogging a dead horse&quot; and start scaling with the right partners… this episode is for you.🎧 Join us for an honest conversation on sales, medical-grade innovation, and the reality of building a lasting legacy in the telecommunications space.📌 Don’t forget to: 👍 Like 💬 Comment your biggest takeaway 🔔 Subscribe for more honest conversations on entrepreneurship, business, leadership, and personal growth📲 Connect with Michelle Expert: 📸 Instagram: @michelle_expertreal 📘 Facebook: Michelle Expert 🐦 Twitter/X: @Michelle_Expert 🌐 Shop the Hub: resonatehub.shop📩 Join the Resonate Community Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/resonatehub.co.za/</p>