The biggest AI threat still comes from humans | E31

<p>This Week In Startups is made possible by:</p><p>PayPal:<a href="http://paypal.launch.co"> <u>paypal.launch.co</u></a></p><p><strong>Today’s show:</strong></p><p>Dario Amodei and Sam Altman are apparently scared of AI models going rogue. Swarms of agents spontaneously deciding to copy themselves over to thousands of computer systems and plot world domination.</p><p>Our panelists this week — Kevin Mandia (Armadin) and Soups Ranjan (Sardine AI) — investigate real AI-based attacks every single day, and they suggest we’re hyping the wrong concerns. The actual danger isn’t coming from an AI system that turns hostile. It’s human beings, like criminals, using AI to drain your bank account.</p><p>Dig into how Sardine uncovered a 250,000 account fraud ring in just a few minutes, why Kevin argues that AI hacking is coming “no matter what,” and why the global GPU crunch more than any safety frameworks may be keeping us all safe. For now.</p><p><strong>Guests:</strong></p><p>Soups Ranjan on X:<a href="https://x.com/soupsranjan"> <u>https://x.com/soupsranjan</u></a> Sardine AI:<a href="https://www.sardine.ai/"> <u>https://www.sardine.ai/</u></a></p><p>Kevin Mandia on LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-mandia-0a07173/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-mandia-0a07173/</u></a> Armadin:<a href="https://www.armadin.com/"> <u>https://www.armadin.com/</u></a></p><p><strong>Relevant Links:</strong></p><p><a href="https://darioamodei.com/post/we-must-pace-the-frontier"><u>&quot;We Must Pace the Frontier&quot;</u></a> — Dario Amodei&#39;s Sept 12 essay</p><p><a href="https://www.axios.com/2026/09/12/anthropic-ai-amodei-pacing"><u>Axios: Anthropic and OpenAI CEOs call for a slowdown</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/14/politics/trump-vance-ai-alarms"><u>Trump and the White House push back</u></a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/gabrielalinzainescu/2026/09/13/anthropic-ceo-dario-amodei-calls-for-a-slowdown-in-frontier-ai/"><u>Forbes: what the essay actually proposes</u></a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_OpenAI_agent_cyberattacks"><u>2026 OpenAI agent cyberattacks</u></a></p><p><a href="https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.3"><u>GLM-5.3</u></a> —<a href="http://z.ai"> <u>Z.ai</u></a>&#39;s open-weight model</p><p><a href="https://hermes-agent.org/"><u>Hermes Agent</u></a> — the agent framework Ranjan runs in a local harness</p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p><br></p><p>0:00 Dario Amodei&#39;s &quot;We M