FPP 2026: The Space All Around Thoughts (Part 3)

In this Zazenkai day Dharma talk, Sensei Kathie Fisher turns to several of Zhao Zhou’s understated koans as part of Upaya’s Fall Practice Period. She explores what Zhao Zhou’s teacher meant by “ordinary mind”: not the busy, problem-solving mind we are so familiar with, but the simple awareness in which all experience rests. “This is not in opposition to thoughts,” she says. “It is the space all…

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