Passive Aggressive vs. ‘Massive Aggressive’ With Novelist Elizabeth Strout

<p>The bestselling novelist behind works like <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/amy-and-isabelle/id419975757?itscg=30200&amp;at=1000l38Mz&amp;ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Amy and Isabelle</em></a> and <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/olive-kitteridge/id419952416?itscg=30200&amp;at=1000l38Mz&amp;ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Olive Kitteridge</em></a> discusses her excitement about turning 70, her reserved New England upbringing, and how death figures into her latest novel, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-things-we-never-say/id6753041097?itscg=30200&amp;at=1000l38Mz&amp;ct=death_sex_money" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Things We Never Say</em></a>. She also talks about her later start in publishing, her experience taking a stand-up comedy class, and her fascination with New York City’s loud, emotional straight talk.&nbsp;</p><p>Get more <em>Death, Sex &amp; Money</em> with Slate Plus! Join for exclusive bonus episodes of DSM and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the <em>Death, Sex &amp; Money</em> show page on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/death-sex-money/id870688022" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0yKEWqaqfaAKlSjYnDuisy" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit <a href="https://slate.com/death-sex-money-plus?utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=plus_pod&amp;utm_content=Death_Sex_Money&amp;utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/dsmplus</a> to get access wherever you listen.</p><p>If you’re new to the show, welcome. We’re so glad you’re here. Find us and follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deathsexmoney/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and you can find Anna’s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, critiques, is <a href="mailto:deathsexmoney@slate.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">deathsexmoney@slate.com</a>.</p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.