Walking Between Two Worlds: A Grounded Conversation on Shamanism with Leslie Wolf Baker

There are ways of knowing that don’t come through logic alone. Intuition, dreams, synchronicity, energy, and the quiet inner signals many of us have been taught to dismiss can all become pathways back to ourselves. In this episode, Heather sits down with Leslie Wolf Baker to explore shamanism through a grounded, accessible lens. Leslie describes shamanism as “walking between two worlds” - the practical world we live in each day and the deeper unseen world of intuition, energy, dreams, and spirit.

Together, they explore altered states of consciousness, the healing potential of theta brain states, dream symbolism, spirit guides, power animals, and the role of gratitude in daily life. Leslie also shares her personal path from law librarian to psychotherapist and shamanic practitioner, and how grief became a doorway into deeper remembering.

If you’ve ever sensed there is more to life than what can be measured, this conversation offers a thoughtful invitation to trust your own inner knowing and reconnect with the wisdom already within you.

Episode Resources:

Books discussed this episode:

Shaman, Healer, Sage by Albert Villoldo

The Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner

Awakening to the Spirit World by Sandra Ingerman

Memories, Dreams and Reflections by Carl Jung

Podcasts discussed:

Shaman's Cave with Sandra Ingerman

About Leslie