Chris Philp: mass immigration is making Britain ‘ungovernable’

<p>Chris Philp joins James Heale to discuss what the Conservatives got wrong on immigration – and how they plan to fix it. The shadow Home Secretary argues that mass immigration risks making Britain ‘ungovernable’, says the last Tory government made a ‘catastrophic mistake’ after 2020 and explains why he thinks Reform still lacks a credible plan for government.</p><br><p>He also lifts the lid on his time inside the Home Office, from civil service resistance to the Rwanda scheme to the legal constraints he believes stop ministers controlling the borders.</p><br><p>Produced Oscar Edmondson and Abigail Brierley.</p><p>Become a <em>Spectator </em>subscriber today to access this podcast without adverts. Go to <a href="https://www.spectator.co.uk/follow-your-podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spectator.co.uk/adfree</a> to find out more.</p><br><p>For more <em>Spectator</em> podcasts, go to <a href="https://www.spectator.co.uk/podcasts/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">spectator.co.uk/podcasts</a>.</p><br><p>Contact us: podcast@spectator.co.uk</p>

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