
← Creator Playbooks1 Apr · 1 h 30 min
Meet The Advertising Genius Behind Steven Bartlett
<p>Get a breakdown of Tom's frameworks in my free newsletter: <a href="https://bit.ly/48JKUaa" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/48JKUaa</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Apply to work with me:<a href="https://bit.ly/4zZb8Cy" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/4zZb8Cy</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Tom Lewis is Steven Bartlett’s advertising performance partner and co-founder of Metastat. </p><p>At 22, he’s helped scale brands and creators by replacing guesswork with data.In this episode, Tom explains how top creators use paid ads to test thumbnails, titles, hooks, guests, and even product ideas before publishing, sometimes for under £100 on The Diary Of A CEO. </p><p>He shares how Meta ads can help predict virality, improve click-through rates, and turn content into a repeatable growth system.We also cover when creators should monetise, why many launch too early, and why paid ads should support organic growth, not replace it. </p><p>A practical guide to turning content into predictable growth and revenue.</p><p><br /></p><p>Listen on your podcast player:<a href="https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/creatorplaybooks" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/creatorplaybooks</a></p><p>Follow Callum on socials:Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thecallumc/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.instagram.com/thecallumc/</a></p><p>TikTok - <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@heycallum" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.tiktok.com/@heycallum</a>X - <a href="https://x.com/mcdonnellcallum" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/mcdonnellcallum</a></p><p>LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/callummcdonnell" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/callummcdonnell</a></p><p>Produced by 7xContent - make your own podcast with us:<a href="https://www.7xcontent.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.7xcontent.com</a></p><p>Follow Tom: LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-lewis-a46877167/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-lewis-a46877167/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Timestamps (accurate + true to transcript)</p><p>00:00 Introduction to Tom Lewis and Steven Bartlett's Advertising Machine</p><p>00:13 Tom Lewis' Journey and Partnership with Steven Bartlett</p><p>04:46 The Power of Paid Media and Experimentation</p><p>05:22 Deep Dive into Testing and Experimentation</p><p>12:20 Practical Tips for Running Effective Ad Campaigns</p><p>18:47 Optimizing Meta Ads for Traffic</p><p>21:19 Budgeting for Effective Ad Campaigns</p><p>22:59 Balancing Creativity and Data</p><p>24:04 Tom's Best Frameworks</p><p>25:28 The Importance of Eliminating Guesswork</p><p>26:38 Building a Brand Before Monetization</p><p>29:12 Using Paid Ads to Catalyze Growth</p><p>29:12 Understanding Meta's Ad Auction System</p><p>34:08 Creating Engaging Ad Content</p><p>35:08 The Power of Problem-Solution Hooks</p><p>36:42 Leveraging Dragons' Den Pitches</p><p>43:48 Iterating on Successful Ad Concepts</p><p>52:06 Meta Ads Campaign Structure</p><p>52:45 The Outlier Graph and Winning Ads</p><p>55:07 The Evolution of Magic Ads</p><p>57:39 Setting Goals for Meta Ads</p><p>58:00 Instagram Profile Visits Strategy</p><p>1:02:50 Retargeting and Audience Segmentation</p><p>1:06:08 Choosing the Right Product for Creators</p><p>1:11:51 The Future of Meta Advertising</p><p>1:14:24 Focusing on Long-Term Customer Value</p><p>1:21:44 Structuring Your Team for Success</p><p>1:24:42 Insights on Working with Steven Bartlett</p><p>1:27:00 Conclusion and Next Steps</p>