Episode 237: Credit Card Skimmer to Police Trainer: Lessons from Both Sides of Crime with Michael Perez & Steven Webster

<p>What happens when a former criminal and a retired police officer join forces to protect organizations from the very crimes they once investigated from opposite sides?</p><p>In Episode 237 of the Gravity Podcast, host Christopher Littrell sits down with Michael Perez and Steven Webster of MICCLO, a company focused on helping organizations identify vulnerabilities, prevent fraud, and strengthen security.</p><p>Michael&#39;s story is one of the most compelling we&#39;ve ever featured on the podcast. After becoming involved in a sophisticated skimming operation that compromised financial information and led to federal felony convictions, he ultimately served time in prison and rebuilt his life. Today, he uses his firsthand knowledge of criminal tactics to help organizations, financial institutions, and law enforcement understand how these crimes occur and how to stop them before they happen.</p><p>Joining him is Steven Webster, a retired law enforcement professional whose career was spent pursuing criminals, investigating fraud, and protecting communities. Together, Michael and Steven provide a unique perspective that combines the mindset of the offender with the experience of the investigator.</p><p>In this conversation, we discuss:</p><ul><li>Michael&#39;s journey from criminal activity to redemption and purpose</li><li>How skimming operations work and why they continue to be effective</li><li>Lessons learned from both sides of the justice system</li></ul><ul><li>The power of accountability, second chances, and personal transformation</li><li>Practical steps organizations can take to protect themselves from fraud and financial crime</li></ul><p>This episode is a powerful reminder that our worst decisions do not have to define our future. Whether you&#39;re in law enforcement, business, leadership, or simply interested in stories of resilience and redemption, you&#39;ll find valuable lessons in this conversation.</p><p>Listen now and discover how experience from both sides of the law can help create safer organizations and stronger communities.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Steven or Michael</strong></p><p><a href="https://micclogov.com/?contact" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Website</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Paid Promotion</strong></p><p><strong>First Responder Health and Wellness</strong> - An exclusive for Gravity Podcast listeners, Please use Gravity15 for a 15% discount code. To schedule a free inquiry call or to purchase supplements go to <a href="http://www.firstresponderhealth.net">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.firstresponderhealth.net⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a><strong></strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Gravity</strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thatgravitypodcast">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/thatgravitypodcast">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> I <a href="https://www.facebook.com/thatgravitypodcast">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> I <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thatgravitypodcast">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>I <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/thatgravitypodcast">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> I <a href="https://gravityct.com/podcast">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> </p><p><a href="https://gravityct.com/merchandise">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p><p>Contact Chris or Jaimie at:  <strong>chris@gravityct.com</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Music credit: https://pixabay.com/music/corporate-news-corporate-8307/</p>