Luke Bongiorno, PT: A Pain Science Informed Approach for Healthcare Professionals

In this episode, Dr. Karen Litzy speaks with Luke Bongiorno, PT, Director of NOIGroup, about what it really looks like to bring pain science into the treatment room. Karen and Luke dig into how he blends manual therapy, breath work, movement, and even music into a pain-science-informed approach and why consent, communication, and simply being human with patients matter as much as any technique. They also talk about leading a global education company, protecting a "care at the forefront" culture as the business scales, and staying grounded as a clinician wearing a dozen different hats.

What we cover in this episode:

Luke's path from PT school in Australia to 30 years in private practice in New York How manual therapy, breath work, movement, and music combine in a pain-science-informed session DIMs and SIMs: an inside look at the Protectometer (danger-in-me / safety-in-me) Consent, "no-go zones," and reading a patient's comfort in the moment The shift from trigger-point/dry-needling training to a pain-science lens — and how hard that shift was Balancing leading a patient with empowering them The Resolve Trial and how changing beliefs about pain changes outcomes Staying human and vulnerable as a clinician and business owner Protecting a "care at the forefront" culture while leading a global team at Noi Group Luke's HOPE (Hands-on Pain Education) course and upcoming NY and San Francisco dates Timestamps:

00:31 Karen welcomes Luke Bongiorno, recording live from Gotham Production Studios 03:23 Luke's background: PT school in Australia, moving to the US, landing in New York 04:53 Discovering David Butler's work and the path to Noi Group 06:21 Blending manual therapy, breath work, movement, and music in a session 08:37 Bringing awareness back to a body part that's been "ignored" in pain 09:28 Karen's own experience with touch sensitivity and neck pain 10:59 Why communication and consent change everything in manual therapy 11:24 Moving away from trigger-point/dry-needling explanations toward pain science 12:33 How Luke decides which "tool" to use in the moment 13:03 Explaining DIMs and SIMs (the Protectometer) 15:05 Identifying "no-go zones" and respecting patient boundaries 16:36 Consent culture: teaching in Australia vs. the US, then and now 18:31 The tension between leading a patient and empowering them 19:44 Being a person first — an empowerment story from a workers' comp patient 22:14 Why Luke still sees patients after 30 years 22:54 The power of simply lis