Getting Agentic w/ Alistair Lowe-Norris

Alistair Lowe-Norris, Chief Responsible AI Officer at Iridius and co-host of The Agentic Insider podcast, joins to discuss AI compliance standards, the importance of narrowly scoping systems, and how procurement requirements could encourage responsible AI adoption across industries. We explore the gap between the empty promises companies provide and actual safety practices, as well as the importance of vigilance and continuous oversight.

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Chapters

(00:00) - Intro

(02:46) - Trustworthy AI and the Human Side of Change

(13:57) - This is Essentially Avatar, Right?

(23:00) - AI Call Centers

(49:38) - Standards, Audits, and Accountability

(01:04:11) - What Happens when Standards aren’t Met?

LinksIridius websiteGPT-5 Commentary

Where's Your Ed At blogpost - How Does GPT-5 Work?Zvi LessWrong blogpost - GPT-5: The Reverse DeepSeek momentBlood in the Machine article - GPT-5 Is a Joke. Will It Matter?Futurism article - Evidence Grows That GPT-5 Is a Bit of a DudGary Marcus substack - GPT-5: Overdue, overhyped and underwhelming. And that’s not the worst of it.Customer Service and AI Adoption